RE: RE: When Is a Censor Not A Censor? The Wider Implication of Downvote/Cancel Culture on Hive.
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RE: When Is a Censor Not A Censor? The Wider Implication of Downvote/Cancel Culture on Hive.

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Tried to message you on Discord. Been gone a few days so belated reply.

"I am reconsidering that now though and looking at other chains."

Have you thought of just getting an Outpost and re-skinning it? I don't know how things are at other chains but at least you know Hive.

"I have to say though that it is only really 3speak that is providing an inviting atmosphere to such people on Hive at the moment."

3Speak is Hive just like Hive Blog is Hive. It's all the same Hive. It's open to upvotes and downvotes. You can't say one frontend is a better Hive essentially when they're all the same thing but through different lenses.

"As an aside, I now have a leaked video from the top scientists at the WHO also effectively agreeing with the key points I have been making for many years regarding vaccines. I fully expect that video to be downvoted to nothing too - clearly not for being 'unscientific', since these people are at the absolute tops of their fields."

Looking forward to that video. Lots of videos I've seen are garbage propagated by scammers like the Health Ranger and other opportunists. I don't know how you'd get something leaked particularly if it hasn't gotten released anywhere else yet but I'd watch it.

"As a professional digital marketer I would not recommend Hive ... but so far we have not had the necessary balance as a culture to achieve resolution on this."

Hive for trading is just like any coin, you have to know how to trade and make your calls in relation to other assets. The good thing about it is you can start generating Hive off a few posts and figure out trading as you go without initial investment. That's where it being a great gateway comes in.

But Hive is still a crypto and yeah it's based on curation and people do fish out the posts that they support morally or interest-wise but as a crypto there's still that element of finality. Finality provides a safety net because as you know, once anything is written into the chain its there forever. People can't be as reckless as they used to be on the old message boards or on the fediverse as there's money involved which will ultimately tie them to a stable identity. Normally they'll curate honestly. No one wants to upvote trash they hate and have that written into the chain just because of profits. Yes there's the reward pool that no matter what we do have to think of and take care of, but when we're talking about conservation and efforts to do with that we're talking against organized exploitation operations, not regular users posting their original content with whatever stance they have.

That being said, with all those elements in place, Hive does bring out attitudes that are not mainstream. Hive's finality translates to personal responsibility. You can't make a mistake, you're responsible for your own irreversible actions. That's very much against the mainstream narrative where everyone should be coddled. You have to accept your own decisions and the decisions of others. So yeah it can be demoralizing for those who are used to having whatever entity shield them from whatever they don't want to see or don't want to interact with but this is a blockchain. Personal responsibility will never be mainstream. Hope I didn't loose you there, a bit of a rant.

"The behaviour I am highlighting makes zero sense from a marketing perspective, that's why I'm bothering to highlight it."

We're not marketing a safe space, we're marketing opportunity and that opportunity includes the ability for anyone to build on Hive. Our pre-Hive marketing focused only on blogging. The current Hive is more than that. I don't want to downplay what you're saying and I get what you mean, but I do want to say that we're not stuck in this niche market of attracting bloggers. This isn't because Hive doesn't value different opinions or content creators but because times are changing. People don't want to sit there all day writing posts or reading posts; people want to participate in different interesting and mentally stimulating activities. There are ways to monetize anyone's time with some creativity. There are a few constants that have to be considered like the reward pool as you've mentioned, RCs, block sizes, account functions and so on but its time to move on from pre-Hive to the real Hive that we're still seeing emerge.

"This is a features that responsible front end developers should be implementing if they understand human psychology and want to see Hive thrive."

If you have an idea and are willing to donate a few minutes, put up an Issue in Gitlab by all means. Not trying to give you the line of 'you code it and see if the rest accept the PR' but an Issue with one or two ideas may lead to changes. I think I mentioned it in my earlier comments the other day but Hive isn't about only positive shit praising it. Everyone developing for Hive wants honest feedback and input.

Anyways, I'll catch you on Discord.

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