Hmm promise not to laugh? It's been 11°C today. Cold. 😆

Thanks for those links, I had a quick squiz and will go back. Elk really are a pretty legit beast, like us I guess. I actually really like the concept of some of the Native American ethos and beliefs. I don't know enough about it to be honest, to by shame and detriment. I feel junket coming on, up your way, for a seminar and around the fire sesh of learning about NA stuff. Now, just to come up with how I can get work to pay for it.