Thanks for sharing your perspective.

I think... what you say all makes sense. And I don't think you're wrong or making any kind of mistake to see it that way.

It's like I could think it's bad to tune your motorcycle to be super loud and obnoxious. And even tho somewhere on the spectrum it's definitely too loud and everyone would agree with me, it's subjective, and reasonable people will have different thresholds about what exactly is okay.

I put abortion in the range of things that are subjective. A fetus doesn't seem like it should technically count as a moral or legal actor, so I can't justify calling it murder or a crime.

(At the same time, I'm open to the idea that a newly born baby also wouldn't count as a moral or legal actor. It just gets increasingly gross and obviously bad the more you go down the spectrum.)

I think often pro-choice people would agree that it's subjective, but then not like the other side of the coin, that people can judge them negatively for it.

I may not differ from you all that much.

Taking the morning after pill after a wild night doesn't seem like a huge deal or a defining feature of someone. But avoiding the wild night was probably better, and whatever happened probably included some degree of unsafe sex and risk to yourself.

So (with some exceptions, like rape) it was likely a bad line of behavior that brought you to that point.

A line of behavior that I'd want my son or daughter to avoid more than I'd want to encourage it.

It's like it could be "bad" to raise or call in a spot in poker, but making that mistake doesn't mean you're the world's worst player and all hope is lost.

Just, bad. Avoid that.

And if there isn't a process of reflection and wanting to avoid similar situations, I'd definitely think that attitude is bad.

So my judgment is more for the set of behavior that culminates in abortions happening, more than I judge the choice of taking the pill after you get to that point.

(And if less unwanted babies were loosely created, there are enough good parents ready to adopt the few oops situations.)

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