Hmm, I'll have to check them out! I almost forgot about QVC. I prefer charcoal too but at this stage of life, for me convenience wins. I just know how we are and we'll probably be moving again in 5-8 years and wanted something compact and not too messy. If we finally get to a place where I feel we'll stay put for longer than that I might spring for one of those Green Egg grills. I remember @exyle had one in the Netherlands and I always told myself I'd have one some day. Enjoy the weekend!