I've had good luck with the Lodge products too. We have a local hardware store that carries, what I thought was, their full line of products but I've never seen the bread pans before. They say it's good for meatloaf also. We have strict laws against shooting wildlife here in MN, within the metro area anyway. Thanks! Bread can be tricky. Sourdough is the trickiest of them all. Enjoy the weekend Jay!