RE: RE: Unshackled minds - let us talk - refugees - Ukraine
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RE: Unshackled minds - let us talk - refugees - Ukraine

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Remaining realistic in times dominated by news and media, where one should ask oneself what or whom to believe here at all, is not easy. People are impressed by talk of war. The further away, the less you care, but still you think you have to have an opinion about it. It looks like Poland will have to take in a lot of refugees, just like other neighbouring countries. Once again, this will divide people, won't it?

However, I suspect most are calling for help from above and cries of "you have to stop it!"
Diplomacy can't be expected from governments it seems, decisions have to be made before actual events to "position" themselves. It looks like the German government not only agrees to sanctions against Russia but wants to supply weapons to Ukraine.

As a citizen, one might expect the political actors to be able to negotiate with each other and not break agreements that have been made. When the most important newspapers here headline that Germany "must help" and people agree when such things are done with weapons, I wonder where sanity is.

I wonder in all this where it makes any difference at all who you are governed by. Aren't governments the same everywhere? Would a country that subjugates another now be able to transfer its national language, its culture to the population in one fell swoop? Would it then be possible to ban and censor "Western media" in schools and households? Would the supermarkets suddenly offer different goods? Would one be checked on the street by the newly appointed executives whether one was also pro-Russian? How long can the other states maintain their sanctions without being harmed themselves?

In the end, it seems, there is not much difference between the countries of the world. They all work with accounting, modern technology, banking, food production, energy production, etc., but there is no difference between them.

Doesn't it matter to which government and which geography you "officially" belong if you want to keep the language anyway, maintain consumption, do business, etc etc? What would happen if Ukraine were no longer autonomous? What if it belonged to Russia or the EU? What would change for the average person?

I would say not much. You would have either one or the other as military powers on your territorial soil.
I wouldn't know what better or worse to expect for Ukraine, I would just ask myself as an individual that if Germany was threatened by France and my country was seen as being under French rule, would I suddenly be French? I would say, of course not.
In fact, our country was occupied, both by the Russians and by the Americans and the British. And? What difference did it make after there was no more fighting? One got used to it.

This raises the philosophical question of whether man must not be interested in fighting and destruction after all, since it seems that one cannot simply say that borders do not exist in reality, that they are merely mental constructions that then entitle one to go into real combat. From my point of view, I would rather surrender and say whoever is stronger and closer may have the power. I would still cook my own private soup. My outward face might be in agreement, my inward one may give a "f...". :D LOL

But if you don't want to see bombs and shells and civilians dying, then you wouldn't supply weapons, would you? All those who claim to want peace but supply weapons to hostile powers or advocate acts of war are skillful hypocrites or naïve. The average Joe who thinks of Do-Gooderism also thinks that it's politically correct to say that "one must help the Ukrainians" (or take another country). Question is who is "one"?

So, I feel that you are "one" of those who helps. As long as you don't feel pride or arrogance about this very act of kindness, I think it's the best way to stay intact.

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