RE: RE: Save us hexagram, you're our only choice
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RE: Save us hexagram, you're our only choice

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Very interesting. It took me some time to wrap my mind around it. I dug a bit into German references and read along. I am more familiar with the notion of Wu-Wei, but definitely am not deeply into it, just scratch it once in a while and try to translate it into my understanding.

On a German Internet page I was looking up your oracle result - here are some of the translations. I know that interpretation is a tricky thing - that you translated it into art, here, your picture, a good method to avoid the scripture and go right for the "real thing":)

Nine in third place means:
At the glow of the setting sun
people either strike the pot and sing,
or they sigh aloud at the approach of old age.
Calamity.

Here is the end of the day. The glow of the setting sun reminds us of the conditionality and transience of life. In this external bondage, people usually also become inwardly bondage. Either the transience is an incentive for them to be all the more exuberant, to enjoy life while it is still here, or they let themselves be carried away by sadness and spoil their precious time by lamenting their approaching old age. Both are evil. To the noble man, an early or late death is not two things. He cares for his person and waits for his fate, thereby consolidating his destiny.

Six in fifth place means:
Weeping in torrents, sighing and lamenting. Hail

Here is the climax of life. Without warning, one in this position would consume oneself like a flame. If instead one abandons fear and hope, realises the nothingness of everything and weeps and sighs, anxious to preserve one's clarity, salvation comes from this sorrow. This is real conversion, not just a passing mood as in Nine in Third Place.

What I find interesting is that it says "both are evil" - that is usually not the habit of us Westerners. People like to make two statements and pretend that the second statement is meant as a real alternative to the first: "Take part, or be excluded", "Either you are for me, or you are against me", etc. What is meant, however, is that the former should be so and the latter should not be so. One puts the preference first and ends with the "evil choice" (or, vice versa). But it is not a choice, but merely actually a single statement that is supposed to be valid, i.e. a pseudo-alternative.

The imprecise nature of oracles can be seen as unsatisfactory (to put it mildly) for objecting minds, who strive for assured prediction. But I find the subjunctive, which is used to conceive of potentials as threats to be avoided, even more objectionable. This is a questionable habit, not art or talented spontaneity, but rather a compulsive desire to control what is considered to be avoided, often with the result that exactly what is avoided occurs.
I see the current as a strong expression of it.

salvation comes from this sorrow

this is not something, one hears often. The superficial mind dumbs itself down in thinking, one has to choose in principles. Very hard to overcome this habit, I must admit.

Great topic, which will probably not find too many followers, I suppose. Maybe, that is not so bad, after all. If things will be taken into the main maelstrom, they often end up like I said above.

In everyday life, I am asked to use a simplistic language, while the superstructure lingers in the back :) what a gift, to be able to do that!