RE: RE: WAKE UP! WAKE UP? WAKE UP ... Why does this term arise so often? And how is it related do death?
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Thank you so much for this feeding of yours back on crisis and death. You became an appreciated dialogue partner for me and I would greatly miss it to lose contact to you. I also thank you for letting me know that reading my text left you calm and serene, which took me by surprise ... but then this was also my intention in publishing my thoughts on the matter.

Fear usually hurts us more than anything else. There are things that we fear so much, that we believe that if they happen we are lost, it would be the end, we would have nothing left to do. But usually what ends up happening is nothing of what we imagine. We actually ended up getting over those things, and we survived. We eventually find a way to solve, even in the darkest moments.

I agree. Fear is greater in mind than it hits in reality.
From what I think fear roots, is the fear what circumstances and crisis driven times will do to our dignity and self respect. Which is directly related towards other humans and what we do to them out of fear. As we all know, survival is actually not the most important thing, because, if one only survives but destroys and betrays his inner and outer culture or ethics it's leading to hurting our souls (or, in modern terms, gives us mental troubles).

I derived this insight from my families history as I realized over time that even though they all survived, they carried the wounds for the rest of their lives, which can be as good as it can be bad. Depends on the involved.

everything in life is like this, first you worry about this or that, about what can go wrong, about your insecurities, and about everything else, but eventually, everything ends up being solved. The passing of time shows our worries as unreal, and ends up solving everything. Yes, we may worry about this today, but I assure you it will eventually resolve itself. If we don't die... of course... haha...

True. After all, if it's not going to be solved in this life, it ends with death, correct :) Death is, so to speak, the master to us humans. We will face our last moments alone and we can make sure to not die in regret. Like "having done the wrong thing even though we knew better"-issues.

For me, resistance is not an egotistic thing. When I stand my ground - and I am having the same fears all others do have - it's also for giving another human the chance to save his dignity, to be reminded of his true values. If I resist and give reason towards a person, he or she has the chance to take that into account. That often does not lead to the wanted outcome from my side. But would I not have spoken out, would I obey to the force someone wants to put over me, I, for certain, would regret it. So, in order to protect my soul, I also automatically give chance to someone else to protect his.

My realization these days is that survival alone is not much worth if what we survived for, leaves us being liars, cowards or regretters. Many of the survivers of the Nazi era did not take time to heal, to enter forgiveness and such, but suppressed what they experienced and got back to usual after the country was re-built. Burying the dark things deep down. So if times of crisis give too many chances to "sin" and being left unhealed they will produce the next generations in such denial and that is, from what I think, what happened. Of course, other things happened too and there are the balancing forces, right?

When I remember the times when the economic crisis here was more acute, back in 2016, it was tough, I remember that one was simply concerned all day about the food, because that was the main priority, eat. But at the same time, we always managed to solve, there were perhaps some days where very little was eaten, but the way was always found. I don't like to talk about that. But when I think in hindsight, and when I hear what it is said that the crisis here was as acute, or more acute, than the great depression, I think, there is no way, because it was very hard, yes, but if you imagine it it is much worse, in the mind it is much worse than in reality, what I think of the great depression is way worse than what I experienced.

Yes, I think that too. I realized that you do not like so much talking about it when I touched the topic one or two times. Thank you for telling, it's important that voices shed other lights on what is broadcasted about "acute crisis". I myself certainly laugh, dance and play within these times of fear.

Then there are these different voices in my mind which talk differently. One says: "Come on, after all, you managed to get what was needed, you even made new friends within the crisis, you were not beaten, not physically tortured, not captivated in prison, nor starved. You managed to get by, a year now! and your fears did not fulfill itself to your innermost worst scenarios!" True.
The other voice says: "You are not alone in the world. People DID got beaten, went to prison, WERE captured in either short or long encounters, LOST their jobs, were separated from their dying ones, LEFT alone in the intensive-care units dying."

In fact, I just lost one of my contractors - a fear I was carrying all year long - and now, that it happened, I am also relieved for it gave me the chance to speak up, to get some things straight with my contractor and not let her come out easily out of this affair which is such hypocracy. I owe it not only to me, but to her to name the conflict, to touch what is true. She does not get this from her other workers, so it needs someone to offer her the perspective, she refuses to take (out of her own fear, of course). I DO give her a guilt-trip, that's for sure, but I do it in a way which is not hatred but confidence. She will respect me for that, though may never think or say anything about it towards me, or others.

There are times keeping silent is wise, and there are times speaking is wise.

I agree with you, nobody wants a crisis, I don't want it, but it eventually ends up happening, and at the end of our days, we may see it as something good or necessary.

What other chance is there, right? If something bad happens, I have the chance to turn it into something useful to me, for, if I don't then I may try to stop a river flowing and getting all mad about the fact that I can't.
Haha! :D Of course, no one wishes for a crisis like so: "Dear destiny, please give me a crisis, for I must mature!"

Wonderful to have you here.

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