Alts have been brutal yea, we will see if they will rally again in 2025 or eoy, if all are selling them at the low they will probably pump. I got into PEPE from the bottom of a ih&s and caught FLOKI and only FET's 3rd wave for 5x, waiting for 5th elliot wave. LTC/BTC maybee soon time, usually every 2 years it gets a small pump :)