'I dunno about "ALL" of the original conspiracy/truther peoples being Christian' - fair enough, name some that weren't, i'm always open to new information.

'if not originally then throughout the ages they have been altered to do so.'

you are 100% correct about this my friend, and you don't even have to look that far back to see it. the king james bible, which is promoted as the true authorised by God translation, is nothing of the sort and perverts and twists both the hebrew and greek to maintain various false doctirnes invented by the roman catholic babylonian church and disseminated into 'christianity' ever since.

example - 'sheol' means grave in hebrew. 'hades' means grave in greek. 'gehenna' means the valley just outside jerusalem where the rubbish dump was. all are translated as 'hell.' there's also no personal devil, that's another massive false doctrine. you'll like my version of christianity, it's what the bible actually says and its good news. you still have to confess your sins to God though..

'I'm not too far off from what you believe and I can relate, I just don't really see God as some kind of separate being '

for the reasons i mentioned earlier, there can only be one God, and the Creator must be outside or separate from the creation, because of cause and effect. the song is not the singer, the art is not the painter, the building is not the architect.

Maybe we could work together in the future somehow. I'm a poet and working on music - cool, what do you do and how long have you been at it? if you have seriously killer poems every one raves over then email me some at [email protected] for sure.

yes you can use my music for your videos if you like, just add a credit and link somewhere, no problem.

'I don't know what the shape of our plane-t really is.'

allow me to help (20 mins) -

'ancient peoples were a lot more technological than modern history suggests.'

indeed, consider the pyramid (first 10 mins) -

everything else you said in that paragraph falls by the wayside once you realise we are on a stationary enclosed system in 4 dimensions. obviously we are ruled by a few families running the central criminal banking cartel, but the rest about secret cities and spaceships etc. no. there are ufos, but they are secret military technology, not from anywhere else.

there's nothing in the bible about 9/11 or the twin towers coming down, there is a verse about towers falling but it has nothing to do with 9/11 unless you twist it so - the important point in that paragraph is that if they had this tech at the time of the bible, what kind of tech would we have now? also, it would be mentioned many times in the bible, and in roman, greek, jewish, arab etc. writings too.
non-starter for me - they were more advanced than we have been led to believe (antithykera mechanism, sp?) but they didn't have electricity and screens bud.

'what would you say is one of or the main "proofs" in your mind that such a God exists?'

simple logic. a creation exists. because of the nature of cause and effect there had to be a prime cause. this is God. God must be omnipotent and omniscient. therefore there cannot be more than one God, because both Gods would not be either omnipotent nor ominiscient, do you see?

so why is this one God the God of the bible? have you really ever read it and studied it, the oldest and most important book in the world? because most people think they know it (including churchgoers!) and they really don't - they have rumour and half-truth, false doctrine and slander, for the most part. the bible is the most amazingly intricate powerful book of truth, wisdom and prophecy there can be. when you start delving for yourself you realise, it makes shakespeare look like kids' poetry. because it's also real, a message for every man in every time, and not just fables.

if there actually was a devil, the church system with all of its denominations and bs is exactly what he would create. as it is, man is his own devil; every one with their head screwed on knows that.

great convo btw, thanks :-)