I didnt even talk about pcs lol. I am not building, i have narrowed in down to 3 pre built desktops. Not a gamer so I dont use it for anything to heavy, but I wanted a really good preocessor to mine. Other than that I use exel, word processors, light photo editing, and i'll probably buy a new interface to record music. I just need it to be fast for trading, and a nice processor for mining.