They call it the coin of controversy I believe theres an article that says they might be made in the UK, George Fuld (1964) investigations of the “Washington pieces” lead him to believe that the 1783 Washington coins that are signed by TWI (Thomas Wells Ingram) and ES (…) were actually made in England somewhere between 1820 and 1848 who knows pal the forum link is here http://coinauctionshelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9889