I'm saying $160K in September 2029 timeframe.

I'm thinking $50K by the end of this year. A slight rebound from the sub $40K lows 2 months from now.

There is certainly a weird feeling out there because people have had to really clinch up their spending and there are so many hours and so many jobs people can work. I don't even know how most people are surviving at this point and I only see it getting worse over the next couple of years.