I think an important thing to keep in mind, when you are talking to Trump supporters - is how dedicated they are to their belief that Trump is taking on the Deep State(TM) on their behalf. Think about it - you are trying to convince them that nobody is going to save them. You are trying to convince them that their biggest fear (an omnipotent totalitarian state) doesn't actually have anything substantial opposing it. That's a really hard pill for them to swallow. For them to realize that Trump is just a blowhard narcissist, who the Deep State(TM) rolled in like a Trojan Horse, they need to literally throw away any hope they have for a brighter future. It's pretty much worthless to debate with them about it. "How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and [how] hard it is to undo that work again." - Mark Twain

Good stuff, Derrick!