I read the post and I see that Valueplan are doing alot of good in many areas (Don't faint) and I see the German conferences went well. Germany is a country that Hive can grown in as there is much more disposable income in a rich country. So it's good to see.
I am not against the idea of Valueplan either by the way.
And I have to say @guiltyparties ,you take alot of grief from heading this up. And I think you are thrown to the wolves in a way. You have always got back to me with any questions and you have always been courteous and I thank you for that. You could easily just tell me to fuck off 🤣. Choosing to die on this hill is a mystery to me but I respect you more for it.
I actually think the Valueplan team is probably too small to cope with the amount of stuff happening, receipts checking, conference organising and so on. While you guys all have jobs and stuff going on. And reading Crimsons post the other day it just cemented the idea that you guys have alot of stuff going on and probably need more help but people are afraid to go near you because of the stigma.

Here's what I think. I want to be objective here and not be overly critical. In my full time job I organise events and I actually hate some of the contractors that I deal with who set up these events for me. The reason for this is that they rush me into things but over the years I told them if they want the event then they have to have this , this and this set up before I release the funding. Any time constraints then tough shit. You should have come to me earlier. Anything without a receipt, tough shit. Some projects say they are voluntary and they actually include their salary in the project cost. And it is as clear as day that this happens with some projects with Valueplan but unfortunately for you ,you may have to take people at their word as you are not on the ground there.
I also think it is easier to give out funding than take it away as it is tough to break the news but I do think some of the projects have run their course on Hive. The Gym Street Workout is one of them.

I thought of 3 main things that Valueplan should do.

• Put a spending cap and time limit cap on projects. People being funded should match projects with their a % of their own funding to ensure we are not been taken for a ride. Too easy for rally car guy. Now he is reliant on Hive. Where does it end? Gym Street has been funded for years now and returns nothing. They have only 81 active users.

• Any project that requires over 100K for the year should be proposed separately to the DHF. This in turn may give other projects a turn or a chance for more funding in the likes of Germany which seemed to have gone well.
  The rally car community has 4 active users and one of them is the rally car driver. If you are to onboard any rally car people it would be the first Community they would land. It's had its day. We own the car. Lets retire it like a Grade one Race Horse and put it into stud. Have it at our conferences but just don't race it anymore. It would be interesting to see how this would go with rally car guy.

• Only give funding out to users that have over 5,000 HP. They have to be dedicated to Hive. If they don't have it then no funding. Our main serial conference presenter @arlettemsalase has 80 HP in her Hive account worth $17 and she has been funded 6 figures. They can say "I love Hive" all they want and be a great speaker. But if a person being onboarded takes a gander at her wallet , they won't be that eager to join if the one up on stage saying Hive is the best thing since sliced bread has nothing in her Hive account. If people want funding then they need to have skin in the game. If there is nobody to do the conference then great!! Don't do it. It will be one less thing for you to deal with. I find it hard to believe that these people do it out of their "love" for Hive. There is definitely a kick back. You don't see it but it is there. When I see the state of some of the "Hive Merch" bracelets and stickers at these events , I would start there.

• Cut back funding in South America particularly Venezuela. The country is the worst run country in the world and it is banned on the airdrop list for major cryptocurrencies and exchanges. We come across as naïve and too trusting. I think Hive likes to think the best of people but we should be thinking the absolute worst of people especially in the crypto space. Why are we not focusing on first world countries?? Those who have disposable income to buy HP. The countries we focus on don't have a pot to piss in. Lucky to have a laptop.

I think the above points are easily done and it is just a case of winding down certain projects and you will have a lot less grief. I think there is a certain stubbornness to back down on your part on the rally car which I get.
Seeing that we love to harp on about being decentralised and all that . Maybe if you did a poll amongst the active users about whether to keep the major spends such as the rally car/ Gym Street and the expensive well digging to the Hive Community so they will have a voice and everybody would stop moaning about it. We would all get closure. Anyway thanks for you time.