That is what it has come to, but what is the better place inleo ? lol still pretty reliant on hive and I never had much issues with them but I heard folk got burned by them in the past, 2.0 seems promising so I hope they can get it and actually become independent from hive. This is what many folks with lots of HP do here they push you away , I was a really big Hive supporter at this point I have no faith and I know lots of people dont either they just collect their votes while they can