You want me to debate that I have debating skills with someone that called me a cheerleader and a shill and think that it has any bearing on anything this far, which is simply that you don't want to address the changes in full, to consider them in full, or even entertain any benefit from them (benefits which have been documented and demonstrated by palnet and smoke, by numerous people)?fuck off, you think I'm here to convince you of shit? I told you, until you consider it sensibly, until you extend the thought to the changes that they deserve, you will only get me pointing fingers and calling you names, names you own based on your actions.