Okay although I wasn't meaning to imply they were using the delegation from steemit for upvotes. The upvotes come from adm, on automated reports and comments that anyone else would be flagged for (using the delegation). It's been a sore point for many people for a few years.

We definately need steemcleaners and/or other services like it - as well as a healthy ecosystem of manual abuse fighters for steem to survive & thrive. If they're being funded through author rewards as well as being given massive delegations for free - they should be accountable and consistent with how they apply their downvotes.

I agree completely that services contributing to rewarding low effort/spam content should be scrutinized as they have a bigger effect on the market.