I ran into a guy who helped some on discord.

1. He says the The mack-bot and enforcer flags are from Steemcleaners. He says they are voting down my posts for "comment spam" (confirmed Mack-bot is steemcleaners but enforcer48 bot is not) enforcer48 bot is known to go attack people who post links into discord groups. Best not to do that, tread carefully!

What is comment spam I asked?

"comment spam is when you place ads at the bottom of your comments you reply with" he says

"Sending these comments on any reply to a post you made is the equivalent of mass advertising or spam
The community does not appreciate this and have groups like steemcleaners in place to remove it via downvote"

Example: I have been placing some "ads" in my posts, to get more exposure. I have now just been told that something about it isn't welcome or attracts the ire of community, here you can see the ads at end of comment.

Looks like ill have to find out more what I can post in these "ads" or can't and what the limitations of freedom I have are. Some of them are on my own blog page, and no one should be downvoting someone's ads ON THEIR OWN BLOG PAGE. Don't like their Blog? PASS. WALK AWAY. Don't abuse them. Don't follow them, you can mute them, you don't have to attack and damage people because you are a hothead internet psycho thank you very much. O.O

I apparently have to get ahold of "steemcleaners" in order to get them to stop downvoting my posts and find out how to prevent it further. If anyone has info on this, let me know.

These are the official reasons listed by steemit.com for using a flag:
a "Flag" is a downvote.

• He disagrees on your rewards
• He has the right to state anything about your posts, content, etc
• Nobody here will control his speech, hate speech is not policed
• This is what decentralized is here for, there is no controlling entity that can decide what is said.

Therefore, it seems that Steemit allows all kinds of Hate, Hatespeech, Criminal actions against others, but not the freedom to even post something you want about your project or blog on your own posts. You can't sell yourself, but you can sure going around abusing others and damaging them. Terrible. Absolutely rediculous.

Steemit community needs to have this fixed and now. A tiny ad in your post should not be worse than or looked on worse than nor attacked versus hateful actions, harrassment, and abuse.

Steemit also needs to make the options to block abusive people from your blog. There should be no support for abuse and hate speech on steemit. At least not criminal libellous attacks, criminal false accusations, criminal defamations, or otherwise.

There should also be some kind of mechanism to protect discrimination against new users, users of different categories, etc. If there is none, then Steemit is effectively a radical hate speech platform. No ad at the bottom of your post but no problem to commit crimes and ethics violations against others? Its clearly backwards and a serious problem that makes steemit not a professional platform nor atmosphere for the mainstream.

Legal matters. These are LEGAL FACTS. They are not up for dispute.

1. It is ILLEGAL in every country to: Verbally or written, to false accuse, lie about, slander, defame, libel other people or entities. This is NOT your freespeech right and is NOT protected in ANY country as a freespeech right.
2. Just because you are committing these CRIMES online does not magically somehow make it legal or ethical, it is STILL A CRIME in EVERY nation and jurisdiction and Internationally ALSO.
3. Written defamation is called "libel," while spoken defamation is called "slander." Written defamation can also be considered as "slander" especially if used in a conversation or blog, direct communications in public conversations or public forums.
4. If you suspect someone is trying to scam people, you can NOT state that it is a scam until loss has been committed and you must prove your claim, NOT the party accused. They don't have to prove anything.
5. Due process DEMANDS the accuser to prove his claim NOT the accused. That is THE LAW, EVERYWHERE.
6. Even if you are on the ISS and not on the earth, you are a citizen of a country and subject to those laws of your citizenry. ALL OF THEM have such laws.
7. If you are present in a jurisdiction where the law can not reach you currently to arrest you for such, that DOES NOT make it legal, that only means you will be arrested LATER for it.
8. Financial penalties for such, can range into levels far far higher, even hundreds to thousands of times higher in many multiples of the actual loss. This is COMMON and the norm. There is no limitation for losses to be only the amount of actual financial loss. Reputational loss is typically estimated and appointed by the plaintiff and awarded accordingly. It is typically in the Millions of dollars per case per occurrance.
9. DO NOT SLANDER PEOPLE
10. DO NOT FALSE ACCUSE PEOPLE FOR ANY REASON. It is wrong, morally reprehensible and uncalled for. Its a sin, illegal and a crime to your fellow man. Dont do it.

What you CAN NOT SAY when you suspect something is a scam:

• ITS A SCAM!! (this is false accusation without cause, without due process, without a loss nor crime having been committed, it is appropriating guilt before action which is far even before conviction. you simply can not legally call scam until a scam has actually occurred)

What you CAN say when suspect something is a Scam:

• It looks suspect to me
• I think IT MIGHT BE a scam
• This seems to have some suspect conditions like xyz.

What is the appropriate behavior?

• Ask politely for an explanation.
• Use your thinker not your stinker. Don't abuse, research.
• give the benefit of the doubt, by all means be cautious if you don't understand something but you can't cry scam when no one has even lost anything yet.

In regards to returns. ALL early stage startups promise huge returns like 3-10x IF the project actually can get off the ground and to a profit. That's the FACT of Startup and Startup investing. Venture Capitalists don't invest in things that don't. Instead of pretending the entire Venture Capital industry magically doesn't exist, you can accept that this is real, that crypto investments are real and people have earned up to 70,000% gains in them, and 300% or 3x, is the low end of the long term VC scale of 3-10X. Use your thinker not your stinker.