Soviet Union, Venezuela, CCP China, ...
Emma Goldman was there when the soviet union began.
The united snakes declared her dead husband to have never been a citizen so that they could declare her a non-citizen and deport her back to russia.
This is her report: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-there-is-no-communism-in-russia.
Communism does not reward the top producers to produce.
In fact, as a political environ, it destroys people who stand out.
I agree with you that socialism does as you say.
Socialusts want to use gov't force to attain power, then, in some distant future never now, the state will fade away as obsolete.
Any above average people are a threat to the ruling class' tenuous grip on power.
This is an excerpt from a report from the time that marx split the workingman's union into socialusts and anarchists: https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/franz-mehring-the-bakunin-marx-split-in-the-1st-international.
You can look around and see which side got establishment support.
You know the name marx because it serves the purposes of the banks that you know the name marx.
But, Bakunin, never hear that name, eh?
It's the same way they push BNW and 1984, but never The Iron Heel or Looking
Backwards.
Which is more valuable to you, your reputation among your friends and peers, or money?
Currently, you have taken the side of money over social capital.
I say social capital is more valuable than money.
That makes it easier for me to accept being a communist.
I didn't want to accept it, at first, but it answered alot of questions I had about anarchism.
I got the same rockerfella version of history and 'how things are' as everybody else in the west.
the capitalists do not spend all their money
the workers can't save their money.
You don't think this is true?
When rich people spend money, they spend it on things that will bring them more money in the future, art, high value cars, gold, etc, but poor people spend their money mostly on shelter, food, and escapist entertainment that the rich people rent/sell them.
I'm not catching how you propose this reality as being false.
The thing the speaker really fails to call into account is that there are more shoes now.
And they are most likely cheaper than they were before.
Do you want to go to a doctor that doctors because their greatest goal in life is healing people, or because they want another corvette and a tennis bracelet for their harlot and are wiling to suffer any indignity to get it?
That is an easy answer, for me.
80% of the production is done by 20% of the people.
Yes.
Do you think they get 20% of the leisure or 80%?
Do you think that getting folks up off the couch, and into some sort of production, would lighten the burden those 20% carry?
The management system you are advocating has led us here, I wouldn't expect that to change as this is the goal of the design.
A tiny ruling elite, a largish, pandering middle management, and many, many (soon to be replaced by robots) slaves for the mines.
i did not mean to start this kind of a conversation with you.
IF you have a valid rebuttal, I'm very interested in hearing it.
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