The visionaire account is a moderator of the community and voting up so many low effort votetrading leasers, if a moderator or curator was found to be doing that in the community incubation I would not tolerate it so I brought it up since we've been in talks about incubating CCH and if they're already doing shady things like this then opening up the possibility for more voting power is certainly not something I want to risk.

Seemed rather odd that you'd appear out of nowhere even though I didn't even mention you so that's why I asked, at the same time you bringing up something completely unrelated like steem vs hive seemed very defensive and like you were trying to sidetrack from the actual issue that was brought up. Anyway, have a good day.