Ya man, I am the same as yourself. I have yet to pull any cash from share and crypto investments. I am lucky enough to only ever put in spare money and my job pays for mortgage, expenses, kids, holidays etc. I guess we are fortunate, as many don't have that luxury and need to dip into their investments to survive. I'd love to see forward ten years to see where Hive and various projects are then, hopefully all of the hours invested will have a tangible payoff, only time will tell.