What comes first, the large votes or the engagement?

I'm sure I read somewhere that the idea here was that a piece of content would steadily gain traction (votes) due to its interesting nature, and rise up through the Hot pages before making an appearance on the home/Trending page.

With the content now in the spotlight, it would potentially gain more votes and/or further engagement from those who are not curating masses of content each day, and are just looking for what should be the cream of the crop.



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I could well be wrong with the above, and there are potentially some valid reasons why a post can be highly rewarded but not (yet) have a great deal of engagement. A large stakeholder with for example, 2 million HP, can currently supply a $56 upvote - enough to promote a post to the lower bounds of Trending on their own. They could really like the content, and.or wish to promote their project/app - and it is their stake sooo....


With that being said, I have a table below which was first presented after the 'EIP fork' last year. At the time, promotional services were still around and a pro EIP whale had asked for a list of posts with a decent pending payout value, but with little engagement to show for it.

The link is not formed correctly on purpose, and you will need to add a '@' before the username (a right click and open would be best). 'PPP_Comment' is Pending Payout Per Comment, and the list is ordered by Pending Payout.

AuthorPostCommentsPending_PayoutPPP_Comment
samgisetlink187.74787.747
oflyhighlink084.04184.041
oflyhighlink181.25681.256
oflyhighlink280.89740.4485
oflyhighlink279.61239.806
oflyhighlink278.82539.4125
oflyhighlink077.53677.536
colovhislink276.01138.0055
dannyshinelink174.65374.653
hivewatcherslink069.73769.737
hivewatcherslink169.21769.217
bchainbastardslink169.1569.15
gaboxlink168.53168.531
bchainbastardslink067.13167.131
taskmaster4450link267.07733.5385
hivewatcherslink265.55332.7765
hivewatcherslink265.16132.5805
freddbritolink163.32563.325
dbrozelink062.22662.226
hivewatcherslink261.58130.7905
jaguar.forcelink160.59360.593
z3lllink259.78229.891
gaboxlink059.38459.384
taskmaster4450link259.36929.6845
theouterlightlink159.33359.333
timsaidlink058.62658.626
the38thlink258.44829.224
thetroublenoteslink058.28458.284
guubadooplink057.78457.784
barbarabezinalink056.77556.775
gaboxlink255.73327.8665
theouterlightlink154.94554.945
taskmaster4450link054.57654.576
meepinslink053.97753.977
oflyhighlink053.31953.319
dumb-newslink053.09753.097
strawhatlink052.94952.949
normie.fitnesslink252.55926.2795
beelzebubbalink052.09252.092
strawhatlink051.90851.908
gaboxlink151.51251.512
jeffjagoelink150.81850.818
meepinslink050.75350.753
cheetahlink050.35150.351
kommienezuspadtlink150.21450.214
jack.russellelink150.01650.016
strawhatlink049.80749.807
aggroedlink049.2949.29
hadley4link049.26949.269
gaboxlink148.66748.667
oflyhighlink248.30624.153
cheetahlink048.02648.026
lifecomalink047.65347.653
ybanezkim26link247.58623.793
cheetahlink047.40247.402
cheetahlink047.10847.108
cheetahlink047.09947.099
z3lllink147.01147.011
otemzilink046.80146.801
b0y2klink246.04723.0235
lukewearechangelink144.88644.886
cryptoinvestsvklink144.77444.774
wartrapalink144.33744.337
activistpostlink044.28544.285
dana-edwardslink043.94643.946
higgslink143.93143.931
ecotrainlink143.59243.592
maastrolink143.28743.287
practicalthoughtlink043.05343.053
tonalitylink042.86542.865
doitvoluntarilylink042.4142.41
cuvilink142.34942.349
rivalhwlink042.09542.095
rivalhwlink141.91141.911
hufflepufflink041.56641.566
lifecomalink141.54441.544
lockhartlink041.50341.503
d-pendlink241.2220.61
thranaxlink041.08641.086
legunalink140.97840.978
rivalhwlink240.77120.3855
mproximalink140.7140.71
strawhatlink040.63940.639
thranaxlink140.49540.495
higgslink040.18340.183
lukewearechangelink140.16940.169
honeybeelink139.96939.969
miguelmedericolink239.85119.9255
extractum-lunaelink139.8339.83
lifecomalink039.70539.705
pinmapplelink239.46819.734
strawhatlink039.4339.43
lifecomalink139.38239.382
tonalitylink039.29539.295
thranaxlink139.2939.29
ecotrainlink239.20819.604
inaturelink039.10839.108
johnjgeddeslink039.03739.037
vladtepesbloglink038.75438.754
hufflepufflink038.63238.632
endersonglink238.62719.3135
lorenzopistolesilink038.58538.585
activistpostlink038.54538.545
cryptoinvestsvklink238.50819.254
lifecomalink138.42438.424
emafelink238.33319.1665
meepinslink138.0638.06
dannyshinelink137.80537.805
lifecomalink037.79537.795
aipawslink137.77637.776
sonki999link137.77337.773
tonalitylink037.70637.706
joythewandererlink237.28318.6415
cryptoinvestsvklink137.15237.152
deanliulink137.08237.082
lifecomalink037.06337.063
rafarosadolink036.9736.97
activistpostlink036.92636.926
ariapostlink236.90718.4535
drago18121996link136.79836.798
lukewearechangelink036.7536.75
hufflepufflink136.74136.741
cryptoinvestsvklink136.69936.699
khaleelkazilink136.30836.308
tonalitylink136.24836.248
krnellink136.23836.238
milaozlink036.08436.084
lockhartlink136.01836.018
veryspiderlink235.81617.908
solrasollink235.8117.905
legunalink035.7435.74
makesomethinglink235.63717.8185
jaguar.forcelink035.52335.523
doitvoluntarilylink235.48917.7445
milaozlink135.44535.445
rafarosadolink135.41835.418
janasilverlink135.4135.41
meepinslink035.38735.387
originatelink135.35635.356
tonalitylink035.34835.348
maxwellmarcusartlink235.31117.6555
gaboxlink035.19935.199
oflyhighlink235.15317.5765

The posts on this list have not been read by myself, and so I have no opinion on how interesting they are.

There are some one hit wonder accounts present, but there are also a bunch of names that pop up time and time again, and some of those appear on the post I wrote the other day regarding a rather impressive/depressing farming operation.

Taking the names on this list above and summing up the all their pending payouts (Over 100$ in total) and the comments on these posts, we have the following:

AuthorPending_PayoutsPostsComments
taskmaster4450851.09714148
oflyhigh845.0471422
krnel677.39631174
thetroublenotes632.07851
deanliu531.8511184
hivewatchers432.301712
milaoz419.775149
gabox400.1961210
strawhat341.4111010
joythewanderer339.4941179
theouterlight334.517714
lifecoma330.543125
kommienezuspadt312.102736
maxwellmarcusart307.73921138
jaguar.force288.759742
cryptoinvestsvk285.931912
samgiset280.5531226
bchainbastards268.771430
cheetah258.2370
doitvoluntarily240.1471766
thranax233.665107
activistpost225.6683
wartrapa223.202919
timsaid218.368453
lukewearechange214.52574
dbroze214.277510
honeybee210.125621
rivalhw206.071017
d-pend200.833533
sonki999197.26472
tonality193.46362
ecotrain188.08749
pinmapple186.238764
leguna179.71186
meepins178.9951
dannyshine173.06687
z3ll167.26239
barbarabezina164.3621725
lorenzopistolesi162.4842223
miguelmederico159.36761
hufflepuff155.83551
cuvi152.83962
rafarosado152.37978
johnjgeddes136.7071213
ybanezkim26135.218313
inature129.96118
lockhart127.92954
hadley4125.824412
freddbrito116.56977

People will have their own opinions on what seems like a respectable amount of comments and so I'll not make any other comment than that farm (names in bold) has it easy eh?

Opening the query up to include all authors who have pending payouts totaling over $300, it's not hard to work out whos content is more engaging than others / who is responding to the comments they receive:

AuthorPending PayoutsPostsComments
taskmaster4450851.097014148
oflyhigh845.04701422
jrcornel717.823021361
tarazkp644.883014385
krnel636.332021119
thetroublenotes632.0700851
claudio83589.12803546
deanliu531.85101184
themarkymark525.30407225
emrebeyler500.81705113
acidyo463.07708186
hivewatchers432.3010712
lyubovbar429.94001417
milaoz419.7750149
galenkp404.840014396
madushanka391.650020100
gabox378.333099
nonameslefttouse366.90807215
justineh361.01302290
quochuy350.7910347
edicted343.520010187
strawhat341.41101010
holger80336.5660323
theouterlight334.5170714
priyanarc334.00901466
joythewanderer332.79801072
hafizullah315.28902058
abh12345313.37005507
kommienezuspadt312.1020736
lifecoma311.535085
adelepazani309.0010943
naturalmedicine305.5930654
jaguar.force284.0440634
cryptoinvestsvk281.4110812
maxwellmarcusart281.18501498
samgiset269.8230918
bchainbastards268.7710430
derangedvisions267.8130795
coruscate266.3650575
slobberchops264.6480584
eveuncovered258.297011125
rok-sivante257.515010109
papa-pepper251.79801341
penguinpablo249.31708102
azircon248.4730266
hiveio247.04004292
certain246.73301215
atnazo246.2080138
joshman243.9150254
hiveyoda242.79001123
cheetah239.986050
offgridlife238.09401192
steemer-sayu907235.07201425
armandosodano232.5690647
qurator227.06701084
activistpost225.660083
cryptofinally224.8570926
wartrapa220.6160819
timsaid218.3680453
alexa.art215.41201135
dannystravels214.662074
lukewearechange214.525074
dbroze214.2770410
honeybee210.1250621
midlet210.0870443
xxxxxxxxxx206.64204294
ezzy206.2540719
isaria206.1360759
doitvoluntarily204.5320936
mnallica204.33501119
d-pend200.7660533

I'm not suggesting engagement metrics should be used to order a Trending page, as that will certainly be gamed. A bit like if I produce this list too often.

It would be nice though to see a list of posts that have genuine interactions taking place near the top of the pile - new visitors could see that as more of a positive than the number next to the hexagon.


Cheers

Asher

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