HBD Bonds Follow Up | First Batch Sold, Initial Conclusions, Future Plans and Ideas About Sustainability Going Forward

The first batch of HBD bonds as per the announcement post from November 15, 2023 was sold out.

The sale was for a 10k HBD, offering a 30% APR, or 10% premium on HBD interest, for a 90-day lockup, in tranches of 10x100 and 9x1000. There was a 10 day sale period, but they sold out after seven days. If the funds are withdrawn prior to the maturity date, the bond buyers receive only the principal with no interest.

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The accounts that bought the bonds are as follows:

AccountBonds Bought [HBD]Bonds Buying DateMaturity DateExpected payout
@newilluminati5,10011/23/20232/21/20245,481.5
@dannyshine2,00011/21/20232/19/20242,149.6
@deanliu1,00011/19/20232/17/20241,074.8
@freecompliments1,00011/17/20232/15/20241,074.8
@randumb20011/19/20232/17/2024215.0
@trostparadox20011/21/20232/19/2024215.0
@bhattg10011/19/20232/17/2024107.5
@talesfrmthecrypt10011/15/20232/13/2024107.5
@kenny-crane10011/16/20232/14/2024107.5
@lilkingdom10011/20/20232/18/2024107.5
@manniman10011/15/20232/13/2024107.5

The details for the maturity date and the amount of expected payouts are in the table above. A total of 11 accounts took participation.

Initial Impressions

Overall, there seems to be a moderate interest in the project. The sale went somewhat moderate, and while there was no initial rush, like everything sold out instantly in the first day, as time progressed more users took participation and the 10k cap was reached three days before the end date. There was a few more accounts that showed interest in buying more bonds afterwards. This is somewhat understandable as all this is new and a type of experiment.

As we can see one account bought half the bonds. This confirms my initial suspicion that these types of projects make sense for a bigger amount of capital. On the other hand, we can see that there are 7 accounts buying bonds in the 100 tranches, so there is some interest there as well. Still, this is a first time, and some might just be cautious and testing things out.

What remains to be seen, will all the 11 accounts hold to maturity date and collect the full amount of interest.

Further Steps and Considerations

The next thing to see is how will the lockup period be executed in terms of withdrawals. Will all the bond buyers hold to maturity or not. My thoughts are that they will, and it will be a surprise if someone needs the funds earlier, but still it remains to be confirmed.

Possible tweaks of the existing parameter's:

  • Lockup period
  • Interest premium

If more of these bond’s auctions are hold, there can be tweak in the lockup period, for example instead of three months, to four, five or six months. I personally would not go longer from six months, having in mind that I’m the executor of the project and it is not automated or thrustless. Still all options are on the table and things will develop based on real feedback.

Then there can be tweak of the interest rate. The current bonds offer a 10% premium on top of the regular HBD interest rate. What the premium should be? This is the same question as for the APR on HBD in savings and can be looked at multiple angles. What is the goal? How much capital do we want? What is the cost… etc. This need to be looked at in alignment with the possible sustainability solutions and be developed in next iterations.

I like the idea of auctions. Having a sale period and depending on the bidders, increase or lower the interest rate. This is a bit more complicated process and might require developing an app or similar. At this point this first iteration of 10% seems to be working well for the lockup, plus I like to keep things simple at first.

Exploring Sustainability

The current yield premium is subsidized by me. A total of 250 HBD. This amount provides the extra 10% premium for three months.
Now the question is how to provide more funds in form of yield reserves that will not be subsidized and build a more sustainable model.

If we look at some options, they will be:

  • Inflation
  • Fees
  • Lending
  • Trading
  • Staking
  • Ventures

Inflation. This is the standard way how things are done in the current economy. It is also the standard way how most of crypto works and how projects are being incentivized for running nodes etc. In the case of HBD the issuer is the Hive blockchain. HBD is issued in multiple ways, author rewards, interest, DHF payouts. There is no specific amount of HBD issued for bonds. But I’m managing the project and at the same time an active member of the community that receives a part of that inflation. In this case I’m giving up some of my share and relocating to bonds.

Going forward I plan to set the @yiled.reserves account as a 100% beneficiary for all the posts that are related to the HBD Bonds. I have already done it for a short post coming from @dalz.shorts, with a bene for the @hbd.bonds account, but realized it would be better for a separate account to manage the yield reserves. I have already topped it up for the first bonds. Obviously, these amounts are small and therefore the cap of the bonds is small as well and can’t scale the project. Its only a small part of the solution.

Although it is worth noting that accounts like the @hbd.funder that is a beneficiary of the stabilizer, have comments voted from the Hive stakeholders and receives a big share of the HIVE inflation, somewhere in the range of $90k at current prices. As an example, this amount can provide a 10% premium for more than 10M HBD in bonds. But this requires more general consensus, discussions, key management etc. Also, the basic question to ask is what value this project brings to HIVE. The stabilizer is providing liquidity for HBD and helps it hold its peg making the whole HBD project viable. So comparing these two is not on the same level. I’m just giving an example here that this is basically possible for the chain under the current conditions, in a similar way as for existing project.

Another way to provide yield from inflation would be to create a new token. This is a whole different topic, with a lot of details how can be done etc, that I wouldn’t dig into it now. I’m just giving it as an option while exploring the possibilities.

Fees. After the inflation option comes the fees. In the long run Bitcoin is relying on fees. Ethereum is using fees to burn some of its supply and simultaneously reward block producers. Fees are obviously one of the most used options from projects to sustain them self. I have tried to implement fees at the very start of this project in terms of lost interest for early withdrawals. But what other options can there be? Fees are usually paid when using some service, and in this case the overall service is to provide an APR premium for participants, so it is hard to think of another way other than the early withdrawal penalty. There can be some type of membership, or eligibility payments, like monthly fee to be able to participate in a bond sale etc. but the fee generated from these will probably be small.

Lending. This is also one of the other options that is used traditionally to generate interest on funds under management. But in this case the HBD is locked in savings and can’t be lend out. It will require another token that is pegged with HBD in savings to be able to lend it to other parities. Something like liquid staking, stETH and ETH. This additionally requires liquidity for that token, and development under smart contracts. It is a project on itself, that might be far away in the pipeline, but can’t see it implemented anytime soon.

Trading. The good old trading. Take a small share of the funds, 10% to 20%, buy another assets, and if they appreciated in meanwhile, they can help providing some part of the APR. For starters funds can be allocated to HIVE, BTC and maybe ETH. The thing with trading is that for sure there will be periods with gains but also periods with losses. The share of the funds used for trading should remain small, to be able to cover up from other sources when losses occur. The risk from trading will be taken by the project and not passed on to the bond buyers. They will get what is offered in the sale.

Staking. This refers to other assets that are under management, bought with trading. HBD itself already has staking. For example there can be some HIVE and ETH, and they can be staked to get APR on those.

Ventures. This is far fetched option, but just to mention it. If things grow and develop, there are some excess funds in the yield reserves, some of them can be used to invest in new and upcoming projects as venture capital.

Current possibilities

Of all the options above, only a few are currently possible. Setting @yield.reserves as beneficiary, fees (partially implemented), trading, and maybe a small amount of staking. Still not a bad start and options to choose from. It remains to be seen how will things work out as time progresses. Also in the next bond sale if more of the options above are implemented and how much they will contribute to the premium.

Note that all the options mentioned above if applied will be possible for the next bonds sales. The current one is already funded by me, with the funds currently in the @yield.reserves account. The good thing about these bonds sales is that it’s an iterative process that can be improved and upgraded. Also, if the practice shows that it’s not feasible, after some time it can just be stopped, paying the latest bonds sold, and not auctioning more.

For all the accounts that bought in the first sale please follow the @hbd.bonds account as I will be making periodically short reports from there.

Feedback is very much welcomed, so please engage in the comments.

@dalz

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