RE: freedom is a myth

Yes the definitions themselves vary, the end result, the motivations/values behind the general expression of free will/transcendence are extremely similar, perhaps also interchanged with hope, or will & determination as you have stated.

It's the value of being Free, which will not gather any value should one consider themselves already free, or should they deny that freedom is possible.

Hope, will, determination, those come into play once the realization takes place, and subconscious cannot be Realization.

No I am not free from the delusion, transcendence does share major features with the notion of freedom; it is perhaps one of the great myths of humanity, that one can be absolutely free in their lives, over action/experience/values/environment.

You are most certainly free from the delusion, you cannot see it as Delusion and be yourself Deluded, as you cannot be deceived if you know you're deceived.

You want freedom but you doubt it exists, claiming it a myth, but how can you want something that you don't believe in even?

Yes economic/social liberation is occurring, the framework used can be successful, the premise that the shared belief in liberation/freedom/transcendence/free will is entirely of own choice is not correct.

So you're saying that you don't have the ultimate veto and ultimate approval?

I'm sure the eight fold path to liberation has helped you and many others, if according with your value structure. (explained more coherently below)

You're simply not sure if it was anyone's choice (it's either your choice, or it's not, there are no Levels to such a binary operation) and if they actually were liberated, you think it has "helped along your value structure" which is a neat little box to put Free Will into.

Maybe I should define this in regard to absolute freedom, you could have moral freedom to choose an action (such as going for a run vs not doing so) yet the decision to make the action itself was beyond conscious control, SVSAM as you described.

The decision being a matter of circumstances which bring upon the necessity of acting doesn't change the fact that ultimately it's ALL your choice. It doesn't matter how you externalize the choice to the Many Systems, the choice always executes or doesn't because of you.

Maybe the value in this is internal and external validation. The very words and definitions of human communication are almost perfectly shared, for what goal?

Communication, like many other things, are things in it of themselves, with their inherent value, so that if we define what Communication is, the goal for communication is clear: relaying of information.

Survival initially,

Speculation.

as a starting point for where the tribe could then start to question the reality around them,

Speculation based on the presumption that we are primordial soup products and such a time ever existed, in order to tell the story of creation.

if in accordance to their values (perhaps primitive values).

More creation myth.

Have you not questioned 'was an action X made really out of my complete control?' What were the influences at play?

Have you questioned if those influences made the choice or if you did?

Exactly. Determined patterns of behavior, which only strengthen as time progresses. Like software. Initially major revisions are made, with maturity the best core features are kept, now only small changes. Human values have become more rigid.

Human Values have remained as rigid and concrete as ever.
You're agreeing on something that you believe is out of anyone's control because it's not Totally under their control but you cannot resolve the argument of free will by mitigating choice to impulse or influences, I have pointed out above that you can Chose your Thoughts, and you can chose all the impulses and influences you want as well, it's wholly your choice on these matters that determines everything.

Take finance. The 1% rule of wealth is fairly established now to be a natural, biological circumstance, of what humans do when playing the game of increasing their influence, to accord with their values. No matter who they are or at what time the game is played, over time this is established, as the winners are consistently winning.

This is established because of the rules all these people chose to follow, the inherent Rules that they adapt as True for the Game they play. It's hardly equivocal of people, because people play it, but it's only indicative of those that play the game.

How is the influence of biological drives and subconscious motivations not a major factor?

It's a major factor in what context, because in the context of choice, in who makes the choices, it hardly plays a Major Motivation IF you chose not to pay attention to them. You could Wither Away without Food or Water out of your own choice. You could Levitate and place a plate on top of a pole out of your own choice. You have the choice to hold up one arm for the rest of your life, and no biology will get in your way.

The high flying CEO may be more addicted to the dopamine rush thereby is compelled to continue, even when independently wealthy.

It's as if he became a CEO by accident.

You can see the same rule here on Steemit, over time some whales will no longer be so, and others will take their place.

The rule of wealth? or the rule of Change?

300,000+ accounts, 3,000 control the platform, not just economically.

Only economically, those 3,000 are still people, and only have so much time and so much attention to spend.

Your correct, the subconscious choices made and as a result the attention paid to them will drive ultimate success, depending on how strong these subconscious values are.

You cannot make subconscious choices, you can call it a reaction, ultimately it's not about success but how much determination is behind the will, that's what everything depends on.

I will try to elucidate differently. Think of a human as a computer. Inputs are received from birth, (even before) the baby has mimicry, learning the way to survive, biologically computed by the creator, the mother. The baby is genetically determined, the environment imprints onto later adulthood especially up to seven years, if the now child doesn't converse well with others they will be rejected by their peers. (equivalent to exile, hence why tribes are formed, hence why governments are formed, to counteract against the great demon of the fear of isolation). Every single input in a life that has attention will modify the overlying human structure, some values change as a result, but the core patterns of behavior/thoughts are shared.

But a computer has no will, clearly you don't believe we are as a computer even in the most simple of terms or how we all share certain biology. We are not slaves to impulse, or automatons who are driven by programing.

This appears a relatively shared phenomenon, that almost everyone has at some level. Again how is this not determined? How is the later actions of the baby, the adult, the bitcoin miner who realises that using better ASICS will improve performance, and confer with ingrained individual, conditioned and biological values. How much of this is truly in their control?

How much of their biology is in their control? How much of their values is in their control? All of it.

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