Cheers! Both beers look interesting. It's a real pleasure to read and see the multitude of different beers I have yet to try. But the best is this, haha:
Who says you can't teach an old beerologist new tricks?
I'm reminded of an old bluesman here, Seasick Steve, if you know that song of his:
Seasick Steve - You Can't Teach An Old Dog New Tricks
!BEER