There is a reasonable expectation from both sides. I can't profess to understand anyone's understanding. If we could summarise what we want to say in one sentence, we would have fewer paragraphs from talented people wasting their time in circular arguments.

Making stuff takes time, femi's ideas should still be empowered with help if he pitches them for validation/polish in the meantime. I know he is working on things which you have not seen yet.

"Come back to me when you have made a pre-proof of concept before I consider validating your idea seriously."

Is this a decent summary @lordbutterfly ?